I found 2 Roman swords in israel and love to know about them

[osh_hope]

Hi
I found 2 roman swords in the last 4 month in differenrt places in Israel, in the sea - around 5 meter deep by snorkeling. Both are amazingh conditions . I reported report IAA and i show them the location and we pulled them togather.
I will be happy is someone can tell me what type of sword and how old they can be. thank you very much
https://youtu.be/-Bl--vZ777U
https://youtu.be/XjyCRPaEQt0

[D B Campbell]

Did you notice this?
   

[osh_hope]

Did you notice this?

noooo, oops, also the IAA divers. are you sure its not regular stone? i can go there and look for it and what the roman use it for? and with whith what tool, i am not an expert. thanks!

[osh_hope]

Another video https://youtu.be/Q-2PR3qpFSM, can you notice here also?

[D B Campbell]

The stone looks as if it's about 80mm across, so it maybe weighs around 1 kilogram?
This would be roughly 3 minai (Greek weight) or 4 librae (Roman weight). (Stones of this size were not too small to be shot from a ballista.)
But it seems to have XX engraved on it.

[osh_hope]

Thank you very much for the answer, i will go there and look for it and will update you when the sea will calm a little

[brennivs - tony drake]

Both look like Mainz pattern swords, at a stab possibly late 1st BC up to mid 1st AD the scabbard can give a better date if it is still intact. Fantastic find well done. 

[osh_hope]

Both look like Mainz pattern swords, at a stab possibly late 1st BC up to mid 1st AD the scabbard can give a better date if it is still intact. Fantastic find well done. 

Thanks! one of the sword is decorate with amazing bones carved in circles at the gripp- its amazing !
(The IAA asked me not to publish it yet so i cant sent it to you)

[brennivs - tony drake]

Fantastic news, I specialises in roman swords so I would love to see any information that is published on them, hilts and the scabbard style are important and the area they are found in, plese keep the forum informed again as a diver myself  a fantastic find and a credit to you 

[osh_hope]

With pleasure. here are link to all of the swords i found in the past 6 month.
1 Crusader, 2 roman,  1 scimitar i think and 1 mamluke i think. dont ask me how... just swimming with snorkeling and luckey me. its really amazing. IAA are very happy: 
Enjoy: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLidfZ...vpExX6cj26

[osh_hope]

Hi, 
I went back to the sword place and it's cover with sand but i saw close to the place a beautiful thing : roman ship stove attached

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Fantastic news, I specialises in roman swords so I would love to see any information that is published on them, hilts and the scabbard style are important and the area they are found in, plese keep the forum informed again as a diver myself  a fantastic find and a credit to you 

Hi, 

I went back to the sword place and it's cover with sand but i saw close to the place a beautiful thing : roman ship stove attached

[brennivs - tony drake]

Hmm! It looks like lead to me, still great find keep diving.
Regards Brennivs 

[osh_hope]

This is the source from i understoos it's a ship stove :
https://youtu.be/J0_POolSkW8
minute 39 and i attached the piicture from the presentation

[brennivs - tony drake]

Well you learn something new everyday   I work lead quite a bit and have studied stoves but never come across this type with water in I can see how it works but heat and lead    anyway thanks for the information just keep it comeing. Here is a stove I made from Pompeii which in some way thought of this type or terracotta being used.
   

[osh_hope]

Well you learn something new everyday   I work lead quite a bit and have studied stoves but never come across this type with water in I can see how it works but heat and lead    anyway thanks for the information just keep it comeing. Here is a stove I made from Pompeii which in some way thought of this type or terracotta being used.

Wow - your oven is amazing!  and what a coinsidence!!! you work in this area. see this one:
https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D...icOven.jpg

And if you want to see much more from israel sea - see this, It's only from the past 10 monthes:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLidfZ...2s-tC2wN4N

Thanks for your commetns - i learn from you too