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Flavivs brillant stuff D
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Woe Ye The Vanquished
Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
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Very impressive indeed!
I would have thought however, that your impression is probably a few decades after the Punic wars, perhaps nearer the time of the Roman victory over the Macedonians at Pydna, which I actually think is really good, considering that I have yet to see another really good impression of the army of the mid second century BC. Very well done! Keep it up!
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Both those Late Roman and Republic pics get a thumbs up from me... Excellent stuff - I particularly like the deep colours in the republican tunics
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"O niurt Ambrois ri Frangc ocus Brethan Letha."
"By the strenght of Ambrosius, king of the Franks and the Armorican Bretons."
Lebor Bretnach, Irish manuscript of the Historia Brittonum.
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Very nice pictures. I would have thought that by that time an Intercissa type helmet could have been around 150 years old but then, if it was still serviceable I am sure it would still have been in use.
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Quote: I would have thought that by that time an Intercissa type helmet could have been around 150 years old but then, if it was still serviceable I am sure it would still have been in use.
Why a 150 years old? They did not stop making them in AD 300, I think...
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Quote:Very nice pictures. I would have thought that by that time an Intercissa type helmet could have been around 150 years old but then, if it was still serviceable I am sure it would still have been in use.
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All the known helmets of the type are dated to the 4th century, yet it is possible they were well used into the 5th. Helmets displayed on the Santa Marria Maggiore mosaics (circa 430) or on the Vergilius Romanus codex (5th century, possibly from Britain) are much reminescents of the type. Of course it could also be pseudo-attic helmets and artistical convention. Ridge helmets on the whole were probably still produced as they seems to be the direct ancestors of the Anglo-saxon 7 and 8th centuries helmets such as Pioneer/Wollaston or Coppergate. The Sutton Hoo helmet itself bears much ressemblance to the Berkasovo type if you take out the mask and the decoration.
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I should perhaps have been a little clearer. Certainly they were in use by the time of Constantine, as one is clearly shown on the Arch of Constantine, providing what we might take as a terminus anti quem. I deliberately used the word 'could' to suggest that such a helmet *could* have been 'as much as' 150 years old, not to suggest that it actually *would* be. Sorry if this was not clear.
Also, I was presuming that by 'late 4th centry' a setting of the last quarter of the fifth century was probably being suggested.
Please don't get me wrong. I am not trying to suggest that a) old helmets would not remain in service
or b) that Intercissa helmets would not have been manufactured for a lengthy period.
I just felt that the last quarter of the fifth century seemed rather late for one to be brand new. But yes, I am familiar with the (assumed) construction of the Sutton Hoo helmet and thus I do accept the possibility that two part helmet construction may have remained in practice later than extant examples might suggest, although it is also possible that the Sutton Hoo helmet was already old when deposited and also that it may have been copied from earlier helmets (the remains of a ridge similar to that of the Sutton Hoo helmet were amongst the recently discovered Staffordshire Hoard, which was probably deposited in the late AD670s).
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Quote:Please don't get me wrong. I am not trying to suggest that a) old helmets would not remain in service
or b) that Intercissa helmets would not have been manufactured for a lengthy period.
I just felt that the last quarter of the fifth century seemed rather late for one to be brand new. But yes, I am familiar with the (assumed) construction of the Sutton Hoo helmet and thus I do accept the possibility that two part helmet construction may have remained in practice later than extant examples might suggest, although it is also possible that the Sutton Hoo helmet was already old when deposited and also that it may have been copied from earlier helmets (the remains of a ridge similar to that of the Sutton Hoo helmet were amongst the recently discovered Staffordshire Hoard, which was probably deposited in the late AD670s).
We agree here
Some people from our group use late roman ridge helmets. It is of course an hypothesis as the last dated elements are from the early 5th century (for the Concesti helmet). Otherwise we use a lot of late 5th-early 6th spangenhelms. I opted myself. for a helmet which owns to both anglo-saxon ridge helmets and late roman helmets :wink:
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I think that such helmets could survive in Roman service, but be soon broken up for bullion value if lost to the army. The Concesti helmet may be an exception.
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hi guys, here some photos from Roma dies natalis, our unit, the Cohors II Sardorum, from Sardinia, Italy.
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testing our testudo
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our centurio (almost one hundred Kg) speaking on the testudo.
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a little present to the unit next to our
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and this beautifull group of Dacii
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A nice shot of my cavalry helmet, from a visitor of our festival Tarraco Viva:
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wow, too great. I love it. Well done. Laudes!
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Quote:A nice shot of my cavalry helmet, from a visitor of our festival Tarraco Viva:
VERY well done!!
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