03-07-2014, 01:33 PM
Nathan wrote:
I know you have your own theory on this, Steven, so we'll have to agree to our contrary interpretations!
I’m still open to other influences, so mine is not set in concrete just yet….
Nathan wrote:
I suspect that the use of the word far more widely in the later period indicates the increasing mutability of unit size and definition in the later empire.
From what I have been reading I would say this also applies to the term tagmata. Oh how I miss Livy. With him it’s all black and white.
Evan wrote:
I found one unit, upgraded to Palatina from "Tribunis Cohortis.".
Nathan replied
That's a rank, not a unit title - which bit are you referring to?
It’s also relates to the men under the command of a military tribune. In Romulus day a military tribune commanded 1000 men (10 centuries). With the 4800 men legion each of the six military tribunes command 800 men organised into 10 centuries each of 80 men. In the Vegetius legion, each of the six military tribunes commands 1000 men (10 centuries each of 100 men). So the Vegetius legion has six tribune cohorts each of 1000 men, and 10 standard cohorts each of 600 men. Both these cohort organisations overlap.
Evan could you email me the source of the Tribunis Cohortis?
I know you have your own theory on this, Steven, so we'll have to agree to our contrary interpretations!
I’m still open to other influences, so mine is not set in concrete just yet….
Nathan wrote:
I suspect that the use of the word far more widely in the later period indicates the increasing mutability of unit size and definition in the later empire.
From what I have been reading I would say this also applies to the term tagmata. Oh how I miss Livy. With him it’s all black and white.
Evan wrote:
I found one unit, upgraded to Palatina from "Tribunis Cohortis.".
Nathan replied
That's a rank, not a unit title - which bit are you referring to?
It’s also relates to the men under the command of a military tribune. In Romulus day a military tribune commanded 1000 men (10 centuries). With the 4800 men legion each of the six military tribunes command 800 men organised into 10 centuries each of 80 men. In the Vegetius legion, each of the six military tribunes commands 1000 men (10 centuries each of 100 men). So the Vegetius legion has six tribune cohorts each of 1000 men, and 10 standard cohorts each of 600 men. Both these cohort organisations overlap.
Evan could you email me the source of the Tribunis Cohortis?
