01-31-2011, 11:05 PM
Vortigern- I agree with you, but I just am left scratching my head as to what the Irish bards were describing....then again a lot of their style is embellishing, so it could just be exaggerations or simply even made up.
Conal- Thanks for the pic! I was wanting to see an actual photograph of the shrine rather then the drawing I posted. The photo is much more detailed and is almost exactly what is shown in the McBride pics. I also found another source of these aprons in the book of Kells....its one of the first few pages and depicts Mary holding a baby Jesus with four angels surrounding them. The angel in the bottom right hand corner appears to be wearing the same apron like garment. I could be wrong but I don't know what else it could be, it is not his tunic, because his tunic is clearly blue and it isnt his robe because you can see the outlines of where it ends, not to mention it is a brownish color. The apron is somewhat similar in color but is more red, like a brick red with yellow/gold border and pattern going through its center. I'm trying to look through more manuscripts of the time to find more examples. I wasn't aware that the shrine mentioned earlier had any norse connection to it? I thought it was made in the 11th or 12th century AD and the story is that the church it was in had burned down, with everything inside and outside being utterly destroyed, all except the shrine and the locals thought it a miracle. Then it was taken somewhere "safe" where it stayed for hundreds of years. I'm not sure wether the fire was accidental or from war. Can you elaborate on the norse connection to it?
Conal- Thanks for the pic! I was wanting to see an actual photograph of the shrine rather then the drawing I posted. The photo is much more detailed and is almost exactly what is shown in the McBride pics. I also found another source of these aprons in the book of Kells....its one of the first few pages and depicts Mary holding a baby Jesus with four angels surrounding them. The angel in the bottom right hand corner appears to be wearing the same apron like garment. I could be wrong but I don't know what else it could be, it is not his tunic, because his tunic is clearly blue and it isnt his robe because you can see the outlines of where it ends, not to mention it is a brownish color. The apron is somewhat similar in color but is more red, like a brick red with yellow/gold border and pattern going through its center. I'm trying to look through more manuscripts of the time to find more examples. I wasn't aware that the shrine mentioned earlier had any norse connection to it? I thought it was made in the 11th or 12th century AD and the story is that the church it was in had burned down, with everything inside and outside being utterly destroyed, all except the shrine and the locals thought it a miracle. Then it was taken somewhere "safe" where it stayed for hundreds of years. I'm not sure wether the fire was accidental or from war. Can you elaborate on the norse connection to it?
Dennis Flynn
