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What is the black portion of this helmet?
#16
Quote:If not paint... how would you dye or stain, for example, a modern re-creationists 18 gauge steel helmet?

I seem to remember reading about someone recreating a helmet to look like that original picture, by cooking their helmet in used motor oil? The black color took to the iron, and once cleaned off the brass shined in contrast.
I could be mistaken
Marcus Julius Germanus
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#17
I keep hearing black is bad luck, but haven't found any references!
Where is this Tarbicus? Vegetius first told me that when all I could produce besides that red tunic(now scrap foclae :lol: ), was a black one!
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#18
Crassus nearly started a mutiny when he appeared in black.

Some snippets:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... ns*/A.html
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... 1195#71195
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=7011

Black was the colour of mourning, death, and even ghosts. I don't even like black scabbards :wink:
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#19
OK! Thanks for the links!

BTW.....guess what colour the leather backing on my brass plated scabbard is! :?: Confusedhock:
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
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#20
Quote:BTW.....guess what colour the leather backing on my brass plated scabbard is! :?: Confusedhock:
That's standard fare, although many makers seem to be going for natural leather now. Don't be shy of painting the leather using leather paint (the type used for ahoes), or even encaustic if you have the will. Leather/shoe paint was used for the scabbard on the right (ignore the red one, the more I see it the more I hate it and need to strip it again):

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Tarbicus/2304 ... dnblue.jpg
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#21
nice work Jim! 8)
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
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#22
If you want to blacken or brown metal you can just go to your local hobby shop and buy products under the names " Blacken it " Brown it" very easy to use and something close to cold blue. Just be CAREFUL not to overdo it

The blacken it over dull brass comes out looking like a very nice light eggplant colour and then just a light buff with bees wax.

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