pugio whit ceselled scabbard??

[Magnus]

Maybe what was considered stylish for one item wasn't for another? When you think about it, the gladius and pugio really don't seem to have much in common in terms of decorative styles and methods.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Yes that is funny! Still, it would be a bit boring if every thing was the same...

[Crispvs]

"It is surprising that there are not more embossed pugio scabbards "

There are NO embossed pugio sheaths as far as I am aware, just as there are no silver inlaid sword scabbards which I am aware of. As is often the case with Roman artifacts, different types of object had their own decorative methods and patterns and very rarely seem to have borrowed from each other.

Crispvs

[Robert]

To clear things, the pictures I sent were of a rather plain, chiselled (small parallel lines forming decorative bands) brass scabbard from Flavian Nijmegen. No embossing, just two rivets to each ring, yellow brass plate front and back, rather a nice enigma. The plain blade shown came from the same layer, has been assosiated with the scabbard, but they were not found together. Blade has no ridges, depressions or fullers and has a tang of appr. 4 centimeters or 1 1/4 inch.

[Tarbicus]

"It is surprising that there are not more embossed pugio scabbards "

There are NO embossed pugio sheaths as far as I am aware, just as there are no silver inlaid sword scabbards which I am aware of. As is often the case with Roman artifacts, different types of object had their own decorative methods and patterns and very rarely seem to have borrowed from each other.

Crispvs

Crispvs, this seems to be an embossed pugio sheath:
http://membres.lycos.fr/bronzeage/sejre ... 190039.jpg

Or has corrosion attacked the iron more than the other metals?

Or is it just a trick of the light?

From
http://membres.lycos.fr/bronzeage/sejre ... index.html

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

That is certainly an interesting photo! And the pugio beside it!
Any other angles?

[Tarbicus]

No other angles I'm afraid. I suspect it's a well known one, probably in Obmann already.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

It certainly look like the embossing like on the mainz scabbards......
But like you say hard to tell for certain. Would open some interesting possibilities if it is though.

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

sorry guys to disappoint you but no embossing :wink: , its the Nijmegen sheath and dagger, the dagger on the right is in the Copenhagen Museum,
do some one have a better picture(s) and / of a copy of the publication of the one from Copenhagen??

Cheers

Luc

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

here is a better picture

Cheers

Luc

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Ahhh, ok, thats clearer...a little muddy bur clearer :lol:
Is that silver inlay, the ring shapes?

[jvrjenivs]

Iron sheath covering with enamel and silver inlay.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Thanks Jurjen!

[sulla felix]

That is a very thick looking blade with a substantial central rib - any dimensions available?

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Blade : Length 274 mm and 49 mm wide at the grip plate,
thickness measured from a drawing, so not 100 percent correct
midrib 7 - 8 mm blade at midrib 4 - 5 mm

Sheath : Length 230 mm and max 60 mm wide
thick 2 - 2,5 mm

Cheers

Luc