The English and the Celts - no genocide?

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Or were the Saxons under one ruler? (not my area at all but humour me)

Hi Tarbicus,

Highly unlikely. Even at the end of the 8th century, Widukind is not a king of the continental saxons, simply the most respected amongst several 'saxon' leaders, the one they all turn to.

In the 5th - 7th cents, we don't even know who the 'saxons' were. Who were the Jutish saxons around Antwerp or the saxons in Britanny or the Pas de Calais. The term appears to be applied to any north sea german who was not a Frank.

Perhaps the situation is similar to that of the Alemanni where we have many 'chieftains', Crocus, Fraomarius, Igillus, Bitheridius and Hortarius all of whom came to Britain during the roman period. Vadomarius I think went to Spain. Although they are all Alemanni, none are 'overall king'. Fraomarius for example, was the leader of the Bucinobantes.

best

Harry Amphlett