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New Mel Gibson Christ movie
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Thanks for that, Frank. I was beginning to wonder if he was elected at all.<br>
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As for the Messiah comment, I was interested to note Psalm XXII, that begins 'My god, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"<br>
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(Unlike Mel, I can't manage Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic.)<br>
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For most of my childhood, I never realised Jesus was actually quoting this psalm on the cross. It was represented to me as a cry of despair.<br>
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The reason for mentioning it in this context is that the psalm is one of the places in the old testament where predictions concerning the messiah are listed. A psalm of David, it mentions "I am poured out like water and my bones are out of joint", "They pierced my hands and my feet", "I may tell all my bones", and "They part my garments among them, and cast lots on my vesture".<br>
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Now I know the cynics will say those introductory words were put in Jesus' mouth later on, providing a circular proof, but if he said that, he must have believed he was the messiah. Interesting, yes?<br>
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Conn<br>
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New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-10-2003, 02:32 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-10-2003, 10:23 PM
Imperial Leather - by Nathan Ross - 08-11-2003, 09:40 AM
Re: Imperial Leather - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 08-11-2003, 10:31 AM
Other crucifixions... - by Nathan Ross - 08-12-2003, 04:19 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-12-2003, 06:21 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Sassanid - 08-13-2003, 12:04 AM
Crucifiction torture - by Robert Vermaat - 08-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Mel Gibson - by Anonymous - 08-13-2003, 11:23 AM
Re: Mel Gibson - by Frank Miranda - 08-14-2003, 05:01 AM
Nails and shields - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 12:46 AM
scuta - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-15-2003, 01:48 PM
John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 09:44 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Gashford - 08-18-2003, 08:10 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 09:00 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 10:38 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:15 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:30 PM
Cross of Christ - by Anonymous - 02-16-2004, 01:36 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2004, 05:30 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Quintius Clavus - 02-17-2004, 01:02 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by John Maddox Roberts - 02-25-2004, 05:04 PM
greek instead of aramaic? - by Goffredo - 02-25-2004, 05:54 PM
Oh, yeah, Greek! - by Matthew Amt - 02-25-2004, 08:24 PM
Re: Oh, yeah, Greek! - by aitor iriarte - 02-26-2004, 05:42 AM
thanks guys - by Goffredo - 02-26-2004, 10:21 AM
Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 12:48 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 05:29 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 07:38 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Crispvs - 02-26-2004, 09:53 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:40 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:25 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 03-14-2004, 06:57 PM
B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 05:21 AM
Re: B/CE - by Frank Miranda - 03-15-2004, 05:29 AM
Re: B/CE - by JRSCline - 03-15-2004, 07:00 AM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 07:45 PM
Re: B/CE - by Crispvs - 03-15-2004, 08:30 PM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 10:22 PM
Nope, I just not going to buy into this one. - by Anonymous - 03-16-2004, 03:47 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:34 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:55 AM
Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 01:28 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:45 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 04:02 AM
The Passion of the Christ portrayal of Romans - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 07:33 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 03-17-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:25 PM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 01:36 AM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 11:37 PM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-21-2004, 06:07 PM
Re: An alternative. - by rekirts - 03-25-2004, 02:35 PM
AUC - by Gregg - 03-25-2004, 05:08 PM
Couldn\'t resist - by Anonymous - 03-25-2004, 07:14 PM
Re: B/CE - by Vincula - 03-25-2004, 11:24 PM
I refer you to previous bits of the string, Vincula - by Anonymous - 03-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Messiah - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 01:26 PM
Messiah - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-30-2004, 02:30 PM
The lost years - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 08:42 PM
The lost years - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-31-2004, 02:14 AM
Re: Messiah - by Vincula - 03-31-2004, 09:01 AM
1.95 billion christians - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:49 PM
Nighthunter - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:51 PM
Jesus! - by Nathan Ross - 03-31-2004, 08:28 PM
Flavius Crispus: - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 02:03 AM
Auxiliaries? - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 12:44 PM
Auxiliaries. - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 01:25 PM
Re: Auxiliaries. - by Vincula - 04-01-2004, 09:07 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 11:12 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 04-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Nazarenes - by Anonymous - 04-03-2004, 05:07 PM
Re: Nazarenes - by Frank Miranda - 04-04-2004, 04:12 AM
That could be the source - by Anonymous - 04-04-2004, 07:22 PM
Re: That could be the source - by Frank Miranda - 04-09-2004, 04:13 AM
I suppose it\'s an opinion, Titus... - by Anonymous - 04-09-2004, 10:35 PM
Re: The Nazarene sect. - by Vincula - 04-12-2004, 03:32 PM
I should know better - by Anonymous - 04-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Re: I should know better - by Robert Vermaat - 04-13-2004, 06:49 AM
Re: I should know better - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: I should know better - by Nathan Ross - 04-13-2004, 12:01 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-13-2004, 12:08 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 01:40 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Los456 - 04-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Ship of fools - by Gashford - 04-14-2004, 10:26 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:45 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by JRSCline - 04-15-2004, 10:13 AM
Marketing - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 03:42 PM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 08:39 PM
A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:27 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:54 AM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Frank Miranda - 04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
The glee - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 09:48 PM
precisely - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 06:09 AM
Re: The glee - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 07:37 AM
Re: The glee - by Nathan Ross - 04-17-2004, 09:27 AM
I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 10:30 AM
swiss watch - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 01:08 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 09:25 PM
But is it really a table... - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 11:18 PM
Re: But is it really a table... - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 11:49 PM
Passion of The Passion - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-18-2004, 05:03 PM
The bunny - by Anonymous - 04-19-2004, 09:55 PM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-20-2004, 09:02 AM
Re: The bunny - by Anonymous - 05-09-2004, 10:57 AM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 05-10-2004, 08:10 AM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by richard - 05-10-2004, 08:55 AM
Erm... just a thought - by Anonymous - 05-21-2004, 11:07 PM
Just read through all those posts. - by Anonymous - 05-24-2004, 11:44 AM
erm... - by Anonymous - 05-26-2004, 12:24 AM

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