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New Mel Gibson Christ movie
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Avete Omnes!<br>
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Back in town now after much traveling and spreading the joys of the ancient world to students, teachers and parents all over the American mid-west. I had to comment on this one.<br>
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp All dating systems are arbitrary human inventions and are convenient to those who use them; they are always being amended, refined, and updated for practical reasons. Conn's comment and Frank's humorous reply I thought deserved some background. Since archæological and historical scholarship of any Middle-Eastern region involves the current occupants of the territory (Christian, Islamic, and Hebrew: including all varients therein), the neutral BCE/CE designation helps avoid unnecessary and counterproductive insults, on purpose or not, in both the practical digging and subsequent publication of results.<br>
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp The notion that "Anno Domini" is based on the birth of Jesus ran into problems only decades after it was conceived by Sixth Century monk Dionysius Exiguus (Dennis the Short), and frankly was days off by his own design. Dennis calculated that Jesus was born on December 25, 753 A.U.C. He restarted time on January 1st, 754 " ab urbe condita," the feast of the circumcision on the eighth day of Jesus' life and Roman New Years. When it was later calculated that Herod the Great died in 750 A.U.C. and in order for the Gospels to be true and Herod to order the Slaughter of all those Innocents, Jesus had to have been born in 4 B.C. or earlier. Ever since, Christian timelines have had to say, Christ was born "circa" 4 B.C. Further complicating such things as timelines is the problem that the Arabic concept of "zero" as a necessary midpoint on a numberline was unavailable to Dennis in the Sixth Century European concepts of numbers.<br>
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp The inherent irony that Jesus was born some four years "Before Christ" and died in 28 A.D. at age 33 only magnifies the arbitrariness of human dating systems.<br>
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Wade Heaton<br>
Lucius Cornelius Libo<br>
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New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-10-2003, 02:32 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-10-2003, 10:23 PM
Imperial Leather - by Nathan Ross - 08-11-2003, 09:40 AM
Re: Imperial Leather - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 08-11-2003, 10:31 AM
Other crucifixions... - by Nathan Ross - 08-12-2003, 04:19 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-12-2003, 06:21 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Sassanid - 08-13-2003, 12:04 AM
Crucifiction torture - by Robert Vermaat - 08-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Mel Gibson - by Anonymous - 08-13-2003, 11:23 AM
Re: Mel Gibson - by Frank Miranda - 08-14-2003, 05:01 AM
Nails and shields - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 12:46 AM
scuta - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-15-2003, 01:48 PM
John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 09:44 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Gashford - 08-18-2003, 08:10 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 09:00 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 10:38 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:15 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:30 PM
Cross of Christ - by Anonymous - 02-16-2004, 01:36 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2004, 05:30 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Quintius Clavus - 02-17-2004, 01:02 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by John Maddox Roberts - 02-25-2004, 05:04 PM
greek instead of aramaic? - by Goffredo - 02-25-2004, 05:54 PM
Oh, yeah, Greek! - by Matthew Amt - 02-25-2004, 08:24 PM
Re: Oh, yeah, Greek! - by aitor iriarte - 02-26-2004, 05:42 AM
thanks guys - by Goffredo - 02-26-2004, 10:21 AM
Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 12:48 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 05:29 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 07:38 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Crispvs - 02-26-2004, 09:53 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:40 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:25 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 03-14-2004, 06:57 PM
B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 05:21 AM
Re: B/CE - by Frank Miranda - 03-15-2004, 05:29 AM
Re: B/CE - by JRSCline - 03-15-2004, 07:00 AM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 07:45 PM
Re: B/CE - by Crispvs - 03-15-2004, 08:30 PM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 10:22 PM
Nope, I just not going to buy into this one. - by Anonymous - 03-16-2004, 03:47 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:34 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:55 AM
Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 01:28 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:45 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 04:02 AM
The Passion of the Christ portrayal of Romans - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 07:33 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 03-17-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:25 PM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 01:36 AM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 11:37 PM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-21-2004, 06:07 PM
Re: An alternative. - by rekirts - 03-25-2004, 02:35 PM
AUC - by Gregg - 03-25-2004, 05:08 PM
Couldn\'t resist - by Anonymous - 03-25-2004, 07:14 PM
Re: B/CE - by Vincula - 03-25-2004, 11:24 PM
I refer you to previous bits of the string, Vincula - by Anonymous - 03-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Messiah - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 01:26 PM
Messiah - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-30-2004, 02:30 PM
The lost years - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 08:42 PM
The lost years - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-31-2004, 02:14 AM
Re: Messiah - by Vincula - 03-31-2004, 09:01 AM
1.95 billion christians - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:49 PM
Nighthunter - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:51 PM
Jesus! - by Nathan Ross - 03-31-2004, 08:28 PM
Flavius Crispus: - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 02:03 AM
Auxiliaries? - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 12:44 PM
Auxiliaries. - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 01:25 PM
Re: Auxiliaries. - by Vincula - 04-01-2004, 09:07 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 11:12 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 04-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Nazarenes - by Anonymous - 04-03-2004, 05:07 PM
Re: Nazarenes - by Frank Miranda - 04-04-2004, 04:12 AM
That could be the source - by Anonymous - 04-04-2004, 07:22 PM
Re: That could be the source - by Frank Miranda - 04-09-2004, 04:13 AM
I suppose it\'s an opinion, Titus... - by Anonymous - 04-09-2004, 10:35 PM
Re: The Nazarene sect. - by Vincula - 04-12-2004, 03:32 PM
I should know better - by Anonymous - 04-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Re: I should know better - by Robert Vermaat - 04-13-2004, 06:49 AM
Re: I should know better - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: I should know better - by Nathan Ross - 04-13-2004, 12:01 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-13-2004, 12:08 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 01:40 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Los456 - 04-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Ship of fools - by Gashford - 04-14-2004, 10:26 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:45 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by JRSCline - 04-15-2004, 10:13 AM
Marketing - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 03:42 PM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 08:39 PM
A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:27 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:54 AM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Frank Miranda - 04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
The glee - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 09:48 PM
precisely - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 06:09 AM
Re: The glee - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 07:37 AM
Re: The glee - by Nathan Ross - 04-17-2004, 09:27 AM
I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 10:30 AM
swiss watch - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 01:08 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 09:25 PM
But is it really a table... - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 11:18 PM
Re: But is it really a table... - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 11:49 PM
Passion of The Passion - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-18-2004, 05:03 PM
The bunny - by Anonymous - 04-19-2004, 09:55 PM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-20-2004, 09:02 AM
Re: The bunny - by Anonymous - 05-09-2004, 10:57 AM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 05-10-2004, 08:10 AM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by richard - 05-10-2004, 08:55 AM
Erm... just a thought - by Anonymous - 05-21-2004, 11:07 PM
Just read through all those posts. - by Anonymous - 05-24-2004, 11:44 AM
erm... - by Anonymous - 05-26-2004, 12:24 AM

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