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New Mel Gibson Christ movie
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After viewing the trailer, a few thoughts spring to mind---<br>
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(1) The cuirasses worn by the legionaries appear to be copied straight off Trajan's column-- i.e. the shoulder plates have rounded ends with big studs in them. The material, I think, is supposed to be blued or forge-blackened iron. It's black, not brown like leather, and it seems pretty rigid, not flexing the way leather would (of course it's probably plastic!).<br>
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(2) The helmets look like Italic Ds without the fancy decoration. The Italic D is a lter first century helmet, but it's not impossible a similar form could have been in use in Christ's time. Just very unlikely.<br>
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(3) The rusty brown color of the tunics looks plausible enough. But the troops are wearing what look like leather braccae. Why would anyone wear braccae in Judaean heat? Perhaps to spare the Jews from looking at hairy white thighs?<br>
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(4) Other tidbits -- i.e. shields, belts and aprons, weapons, etc. look pretty good, for Hollywood. But all of the above is kind of irrelevent, because...<br>
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(5) The Roman garrison of Jerusalem would have really been composed of auxiliaries, with totally different gear.<br>
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(6) Christ is carrying the whole cross, instead of just the crossbeam, as he should be.<br>
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(7) Pontius Pilate, with a very un-Roman shaved head, looks like the lead singer for Smashing Pumpkins.<br>
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( Pilate pronounces "ecce homo" as "et-chay homo," using modern ecclesiastical Latin, instead of the properly period "eckay homo" pronunciation.<br>
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None of the above would have been that big a deal, except that Gibson & co. have been promoting this as THE most accurate portrayal of Christ's passion ever attempted. Heck, they even used the original languages with no subtitles!<br>
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Too bad. A phone call or email to any reenactment group would have turned up lots of properly kitted Romans eager to help. Looks like another missed opportunity.<br>
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T, Flavius Crispus<br>
Legio VI Victrix Pia Fidelis<br>
California, USA <p></p><i></i>
T. Flavius Crispus / David S. Michaels
Centurio Pilus Prior,
Legio VI VPF
CA, USA

"Oderint dum probent."
Tiberius
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New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-10-2003, 02:32 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-10-2003, 10:23 PM
Imperial Leather - by Nathan Ross - 08-11-2003, 09:40 AM
Re: Imperial Leather - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 08-11-2003, 10:31 AM
Other crucifixions... - by Nathan Ross - 08-12-2003, 04:19 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 08-12-2003, 06:21 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Sassanid - 08-13-2003, 12:04 AM
Crucifiction torture - by Robert Vermaat - 08-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Mel Gibson - by Anonymous - 08-13-2003, 11:23 AM
Re: Mel Gibson - by Frank Miranda - 08-14-2003, 05:01 AM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by FlaviusCrispus - 08-14-2003, 04:25 PM
Nails and shields - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 12:46 AM
scuta - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-15-2003, 01:48 PM
John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 08-15-2003, 09:44 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Gashford - 08-18-2003, 08:10 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 09:00 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 12-03-2003, 10:38 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:15 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 02-13-2004, 03:30 PM
Cross of Christ - by Anonymous - 02-16-2004, 01:36 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2004, 05:30 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Quintius Clavus - 02-17-2004, 01:02 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by John Maddox Roberts - 02-25-2004, 05:04 PM
greek instead of aramaic? - by Goffredo - 02-25-2004, 05:54 PM
Oh, yeah, Greek! - by Matthew Amt - 02-25-2004, 08:24 PM
Re: Oh, yeah, Greek! - by aitor iriarte - 02-26-2004, 05:42 AM
thanks guys - by Goffredo - 02-26-2004, 10:21 AM
Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 12:48 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 05:29 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Anonymous - 02-26-2004, 07:38 PM
Re: Garrison of Judaea - by Crispvs - 02-26-2004, 09:53 PM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:40 AM
Re: John and Flavius - by Anonymous - 03-01-2004, 09:25 PM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by Anonymous - 03-14-2004, 06:57 PM
B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 05:21 AM
Re: B/CE - by Frank Miranda - 03-15-2004, 05:29 AM
Re: B/CE - by JRSCline - 03-15-2004, 07:00 AM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 07:45 PM
Re: B/CE - by Crispvs - 03-15-2004, 08:30 PM
Re: B/CE - by Anonymous - 03-15-2004, 10:22 PM
Nope, I just not going to buy into this one. - by Anonymous - 03-16-2004, 03:47 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:34 AM
Re: B/CE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-16-2004, 08:55 AM
Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 01:28 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:45 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 04:02 AM
The Passion of the Christ portrayal of Romans - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 07:33 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 03-17-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: Well said, that man - by rekirts - 03-17-2004, 03:25 PM
Re: Well said, that man - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 01:36 AM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 11:37 PM
Re: Brutal yes, undisciplined, not a chance. - by Anonymous - 03-21-2004, 06:07 PM
Re: An alternative. - by rekirts - 03-25-2004, 02:35 PM
AUC - by Gregg - 03-25-2004, 05:08 PM
Couldn\'t resist - by Anonymous - 03-25-2004, 07:14 PM
Re: B/CE - by Vincula - 03-25-2004, 11:24 PM
I refer you to previous bits of the string, Vincula - by Anonymous - 03-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Messiah - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 01:26 PM
Messiah - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-30-2004, 02:30 PM
The lost years - by Anonymous - 03-30-2004, 08:42 PM
The lost years - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 03-31-2004, 02:14 AM
Re: Messiah - by Vincula - 03-31-2004, 09:01 AM
1.95 billion christians - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:49 PM
Nighthunter - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 06:51 PM
Jesus! - by Nathan Ross - 03-31-2004, 08:28 PM
Flavius Crispus: - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 02:03 AM
Auxiliaries? - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 12:44 PM
Auxiliaries. - by Gregg - 04-01-2004, 01:25 PM
Re: Auxiliaries. - by Vincula - 04-01-2004, 09:07 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Anonymous - 04-01-2004, 11:12 PM
The Nazarene sect. - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 04-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Nazarenes - by Anonymous - 04-03-2004, 05:07 PM
Re: Nazarenes - by Frank Miranda - 04-04-2004, 04:12 AM
That could be the source - by Anonymous - 04-04-2004, 07:22 PM
Re: That could be the source - by Frank Miranda - 04-09-2004, 04:13 AM
I suppose it\'s an opinion, Titus... - by Anonymous - 04-09-2004, 10:35 PM
Re: The Nazarene sect. - by Vincula - 04-12-2004, 03:32 PM
I should know better - by Anonymous - 04-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Re: I should know better - by Robert Vermaat - 04-13-2004, 06:49 AM
Re: I should know better - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 08:55 AM
Re: I should know better - by Nathan Ross - 04-13-2004, 12:01 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-13-2004, 12:08 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Vincula - 04-13-2004, 01:40 PM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Los456 - 04-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Ship of fools - by Gashford - 04-14-2004, 10:26 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:45 AM
Re: Il nostre agente in Judea - by JRSCline - 04-15-2004, 10:13 AM
Marketing - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 03:42 PM
Re: Marketing - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 08:39 PM
A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-15-2004, 09:27 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:54 AM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Frank Miranda - 04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
The glee - by Anonymous - 04-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Re: A quiet thought - by Robert Vermaat - 04-16-2004, 09:48 PM
precisely - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 06:09 AM
Re: The glee - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 07:37 AM
Re: The glee - by Nathan Ross - 04-17-2004, 09:27 AM
I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 10:30 AM
swiss watch - by Goffredo - 04-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 01:08 PM
Re: I do not believe in a table - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 09:25 PM
But is it really a table... - by Anonymous - 04-17-2004, 11:18 PM
Re: But is it really a table... - by rekirts - 04-17-2004, 11:49 PM
Passion of The Passion - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-18-2004, 05:03 PM
The bunny - by Anonymous - 04-19-2004, 09:55 PM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-20-2004, 09:02 AM
Re: The bunny - by Anonymous - 05-09-2004, 10:57 AM
Re: The bunny - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 05-10-2004, 08:10 AM
Re: New Mel Gibson Christ movie - by richard - 05-10-2004, 08:55 AM
Erm... just a thought - by Anonymous - 05-21-2004, 11:07 PM
Just read through all those posts. - by Anonymous - 05-24-2004, 11:44 AM
erm... - by Anonymous - 05-26-2004, 12:24 AM

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