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Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Jose Lopez - 12-14-2016
Recently I've seen these bronze pieces sold as 4th century roman lorica squamata scales but I have not found much information about this claim. I want to get some for my collection but I'm not really sure about if they were really part of a roman armour.
So I'd like to know if some member could give some light about this issue please.
Thank you very much for any help.
Jose.
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Robert Vermaat - 12-14-2016
They look very odd for scales.
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Dan Howard - 12-14-2016
Can't see any images. Are they attached or linked?
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Jose Lopez - 12-15-2016
I attached the image but it doesn't show...It's confusing how it works...Here it goes again...
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Dan Howard - 12-15-2016
I don't know what they are but they aren't from any kind of body armour.
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Crispianus - 12-15-2016
(12-15-2016, 09:50 AM)Dan Howard Wrote: I don't know what they are but they aren't from any kind of body armour.
Would agree... maybe net sinkers or expensive loom weights?
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Dave G - 12-15-2016
They look like 'jinglers', a sort of metal decoration specifically for producing noise , the sort of thing you may see as decoration on horse trappings or standards( not specifically military) or even wind chimes, gives the same effect as tambourine discs.
Without context I think it's just guessing unless there are other examples with a bit of provenance somewhere.
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Crispianus - 12-15-2016
(12-15-2016, 02:10 PM)Dave G Wrote: They look like 'jinglers', a sort of metal decoration specifically for producing noise , the sort of thing you may see as decoration on horse trappings or standards( not specifically military) or even wind chimes, gives the same effect as tambourine discs.
Without context I think it's just guessing unless there are other examples with a bit of provenance somewhere.
The other thing is theres no way to figure the out the size of the objects... could be thumbnail or tennis ball size...
Edit just took a look and size is about Thumbnail and dished, jinglers do seem a possibility...
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Flavivs Aetivs - 12-15-2016
I'd agree, they look like simple danglies of some kind. There's no way in hell you could make functional armor out of them.
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Rado - 12-15-2016
Do not try to guess guys
This applications are from the back of the knives from the European Renaissance period.Personally, I've seen hundreds of such knives of different sizes 18th and 19th century.So do not be fooled by these elements.You can find daily with metal detecting here is Europe
RE: Are these real roman lorica squamata scales ? - Crispianus - 12-16-2016
(12-15-2016, 09:45 PM)Rado Wrote: Do not try to guess guys
Thanks Rado makes sense
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/597049
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/568467
Similar washers can be found on some of the Illlerup Knives as well as medieval examples though they tend to be flat rather then curved... see "Illerup Adal, Die Gürtel" and "Knives and Scabbards"