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RE: Legion near Judea at time of Jesus - Banzai - 03-07-2016 (09-20-2015, 08:49 PM)Purplest Wrote: Not to disrupt this thread, but there's the gospel according to Matthew (chapter 8) where Jesus cures the centurion's servant. Thomas, this would have been a unit in Herod Antipas' army since he ruled Galilee at this time. Dave (09-26-2015, 09:18 PM)Renatus Wrote:Quote:John was an eyewitness.Where do you get that from? John's Gospel is generally considered to have been written in about AD 100-110. In fact, none of the Evangelists is considered to be contemporary with Jesus. They simply collected and wrote down stories that had been circulating in the oral tradition for decades, hence the differences. Many think that John's Gospel was written prior to the destruction of the temple in 70 i.e. during Nero's reign circa 65. Since he was the youngest disciple and the "one Jesus loved" he could and almost certainly did write his Gospel as an eye witness. (10-06-2015, 01:18 AM)Crispvs Wrote: Possibly, but probably not, as Matthew the apostle and the Matthew who wrote the gospel were two different people who share the same name. Although this is not what you will hear from most people, examination of the texts of both the gospel of Matthew and that of Luke leaves little or no room for the possibility that they could have been the same man. Parts of these two gospels are word for word the same, not just in modern translation but in the original Greek as well (the 'Q' passages). It could be suggested that one of them copied the other's work, as they both copied passages from Mark's gospel, but this suggestion would not stand up under proper examination. Enough of the things contained within each are independent of the other to show that neither could have seen the other's work before writing his own. Thus (for example) Luke mentions shepherds coming to see the newborn Jesus, while Matthew mentions the Magi, who may have visited as much as two years later.The vast majority of biblical scholars agree that Matthew the apostle and Matthew the author of the Gospel of that name are one and the same. "Q" is a theoretical invention of liberal 19th century German philosophers out to disprove the veracity of the Bible at all costs (Karl Marx was among them). RE: Legion near Judea at time of Jesus - panairjdde - 03-07-2016 (03-07-2016, 08:45 PM)Banzai Wrote: 1) contemporary consensus among New Testament scholars (historians, not theologians) is that the so-called Gospel of John was written very late (end of the I century), by someone who had had the time to develop a "high Christology", who knew the "Gospel of Mark", and who had not been an eyewitness. The composition of this text inside a community that traced back its roots to John is possible but not sure. 2) contemporary consensus among New Testament scholars (historians, not theologians) is that the so-called Gospel of Matthew was not written by an eyewitness of the events, not by Matthew, and surely by someone who had a knowledge of the Old Testament only in its Greek version. While it's very possible that the Q source never existed, the Gospel of Matthew was written by someone who knew the Gospel of Mark and copied it profusely, changing only the parts that did not fit his theology. 3) Incidentally, all the Gospels in the New Testament are anonymous, meaning their authors do not state their names; the traditional attributions to Matthew, John, Mark and Luke are later. RE: Legion near Judea at time of Jesus - Banzai - 03-09-2016 Sir, You are incorrect on all points. RE: Legion near Judea at time of Jesus - Cor de Jesús - 05-11-2016 (08-19-2015, 02:35 AM)LuciusSallustiusPlautus Wrote: I am actually doing research on this topic and plan to make a video about it very soon. I'll try to shorten this as much as possible. There was no Legion stationed in Jerusalem, Pontious Pilate was only the rank of Equestrian so he could not garrison a full legion under his command. Jerusalem was garrisoned by Cohors II Italica, it was only one Auxiliary cohort. If you want my full research pm me and I'll send you my video when I'm done. is your video already avalaible? thank you from Barcelona , Spain. I would like to ask your opinion: do you think that several centurions could know one each other (e.g. Cornelius could knew the centurion which was at the crucifixion?). How many centurions could be in Judea in the 30-40s? |