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Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Alanus - 03-25-2013

I wonder if it was as big as the round fibulae we find the Romans wearing a little later. Almost any stone can be found on fibulae. The trade road brought Bactrian torquoise, Indic garnets, Takla Makan jade, also Uralic garnets; so you've got a wide choise. :dizzy:


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-01-2013

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Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Alanus - 04-02-2013

Sarmatians hob-nobbing with the Romans. Hmmm. :whistle:

Good grief! I think they're wearing my tunic. 8)


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Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Junia Bruta - 04-03-2013

I recently went to a belly dancing show and there were a few vendors selling decorations that looked like this. While they were usually not fibulae, I definitely think that one could affix a pin to the back and get the look of an expensive reproduction. It may be an area to look into.

Quote:Can someone tell me how big this fibula would be and what kind of stone it would hold?

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Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-03-2013

Quote:I recently went to a belly dancing show and there were a few vendors selling decorations that looked like this. While they were usually not fibulae, I definitely think that one could affix a pin to the back and get the look of an expensive reproduction. It may be an area to look into.


Very interesting, I could cover it with gold leaf :whistle:


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-12-2013

Would this model be ok for a sarmatian boot?
Don't mind the dark spot, just testing how the fat would stain the leather.

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Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - koechlyruestow - 04-12-2013

Sutorius, Ammianus notes the fact that the nomad footwear did not have a last, and this is confirmed by boots found in the frozen Scythian-style tombs in Pazyryk and by depictions of horsemen well into the Timurid (late Mongol) period. However, I believe your Sarmatian is a foot-soldier, so he probably would have had a last under his boots. And figures on foot on Bosporan grave stèles all seem to have the same low boots as the horsemen. I do not want to be a party-pooper, but they seem to be more tight-fitting than your boot, which seems a practical idea to me.


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-12-2013

Quote: However, I believe your Sarmatian is a foot-soldier, so he probably would have had a last under his boots. And figures on foot on Bosporan grave stèles all seem to have the same low boots as the horsemen. I do not want to be a party-pooper, but they seem to be more tight-fitting than your boot, which seems a practical idea to me.

Now problem Eduard,
it's just a model I made, so the shaft needs to have a tighter fit.
Is the hight O.K.?
By "last" you mean tread sole?


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - koechlyruestow - 04-12-2013

The hight seems just right.

With last I probably mean tread sole (I am no Anglo-Saxon)


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-12-2013

Quote:I am no Anglo-Saxon

Me neither :wink:


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - daryush - 04-12-2013

A last is sort of a mould around which a shoe is built.

One was found at Niya, 3rd C, but this is faaaaaaar outside the Sarmatian sphere.


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Sutoris - 04-12-2013

Do you have a picture of that last?


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - koechlyruestow - 04-12-2013

Anyway, what I mean is that the Asian cavalry boots and mocassins were stitched all around the foot, with only two miniature, lozenge-shaped "soles". That is why the Romans claimed the Huns, Avars and Turks were unable to walk (and because a life spent in the saddle had bent their legs).


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - Folkert van Wijk - 04-15-2013

Are there any actual finds of Sarmatian/Persian D-rings closures for belts. I see many depictions on "Persian" statues, but I would love to see a picture of the actual thing in real...


Sarmatian/Persian soft kit 1 -100 AD? - daryush - 04-15-2013

None from Iran that I know of, unfortunately.