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Drunken helot - Jona Lendering - 06-03-2010

I am looking for the source about that drunken helot, who was shown to the Spartiates every year during a festival. Does anyone know?


Re: Drunken helot - hoplite14gr - 06-03-2010

I think Plutrarch "Lykoyrgos" and "Morals"


Re: Drunken helot - Peter Raftos - 06-03-2010

Jona it is mentioned in a number of places. Here is what I have found so far:
Plutarch's Moralia, 455E; Plutarch's Life of Lycurgus, chap. xxviii (57A); Life of Demetrius, chap. i (889A); Plato, Laws, 816E; Clement of Alexandria, Paedagogus, III chap. viii ad init. (41.5); Diogenes Laertius, I.103.


Re: Drunken helot - Paralus - 06-03-2010

Ok! Ok already! It was me...

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a helot and know my place
I drink around here every year
And full of wine they'll show my face...



Re: Drunken helot - Jona Lendering - 06-03-2010

Quote:Jona it is mentioned in a number of places. Here is what I have found so far:
Plutarch's Moralia, 455E; Plutarch's Life of Lycurgus, chap. xxviii (57A); Life of Demetrius, chap. i (889A); Plato, Laws, 816E; Clement of Alexandria, Paedagogus, III chap. viii ad init. (41.5); Diogenes Laertius, I.103.
Thanks Peter!


Re: Drunken helot - Peter Raftos - 06-04-2010

No worries just pass the kylix...oh bugger ...make that a kantharos and I'll do a kordax on the trapeza..


Re: Drunken helot - PMBardunias - 06-04-2010

If you don't have Kennell's "The Gymnasium of virtue", you can read large sections of it on Google books now: http://books.google.com/books?id=u_eAP7 ... &q&f=false


Re: Drunken helot - hoplite14gr - 06-06-2010

Quote:No worries just pass the kylix...oh bugger ...make that a kantharos and I'll do a kordax on the trapeza..

Hicks! You should... hicks! done that.. hicks! before your wedding... hicks!
Now... hicks! drink to... hicks! forget! (passes out!) :mrgreen:


Re: Drunken helot - Peter Raftos - 06-07-2010

You didn't know my father in law. He probably would have beaten me to it Smile


Re: Drunken helot - hoplite14gr - 06-07-2010

Quote:You didn't know my father in law. He probably would have beaten me to it Smile

Hicks! OK (hicks!) Dive into the (hicks!) krater (hicks!) Passing out (hicks!) helps (hicks!)